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John Neave brewer1

M, #13737, b. 15 April 1837, d. before 12 August 1915
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Pedigree
Last Edited: 5 Mar 2022

Parents:

Father*: Charles Neave sawer b. 5 Dec 1810, d. 21 Dec 1891
Mother*: Ann Hattyne b. 1810, d. 25 Feb 1879
  • Birth*: John Neave brewer was born on 15 April 1837 at Kirk Inch, Eassie & Nevay, Forfarshire, Scotland, ; Record set     Scotland, Parish Births & Baptisms 1564-1929
    First name(s)     John
    Last name     Neave
    Baptism year     1837
    Birth year     1837
    County     Forfarshire (Angus)
    Country     Scotland
    Place     Eassie & Nevay
    Mother's first name(s)     Ann
    Mother's last name     Hattone
    Father's first name(s)     Charles
    Father's last name     Neave
    Birth date     15 Apr 1837
    Residence     Kirk Inch
    Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory     Parish Baptisms
    Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland.2,3
  • He was the son of Charles Neave sawer and Ann Hattyne.
  • Marriage*: John Neave brewer married Catharine McLeod on Saturday, 12 October 1861 at Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland, ; First name(s)     John
    Last name     Neave
    Marriage year     1861
    Marriage place     Glamis,Angus,Scotland
    Place     Glamis
    County     Forfarshire (Angus)
    Country     Scotland
    Spouse's first name(s)     Catharine
    Spouse's last name     McLeod
    Marriage date     12 Oct 1861
    Record set     Scotland, Modern And Civil Marriages 1855-2019
    Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory     Civil Marriage & Divorce
    Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland.4,5,6
  • Death*: John Neave brewer died before 12 August 1915; from son John McLeod Neave's death notice on CWGC site.7

Census & Directory Entries

Witness6 June 1841John Neave brewer appeared in the household of Charles Neave sawer and Ann Hattyne in the 1841 census at Kirkinch, Eassie & Nevay, Forfarshire, Scotland, . Neave, John, m, 4, Angus Neave, Charles, m, 30, sawyer, Angus; Neave, Ann, F, 30, Outside Census County; Haldan, Jean, f, 20, lhlw, OCC

First name(s)     Last name     Sex     Age     Birth year     Birth place
Charles     Neave     Male     30     1811     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Ann     Neave     Female     30     1811     Scotland
David     Neave     Male     8     1833     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
John     Neave     Male     4     1837     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Charles     Neave     Male     2     1839     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Joseph     Neave     Male     0     1841     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Jean     Haldan     Female     20     1821     Scotland

First name(s)     Charles
Last name     Neave
Sex     Male
Age     30
Birth year     1811
Birth county     Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth county as transcribed     Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth place other     Scotland
Occupation     Sawer
Full address     Kirkinch, Eassie, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
House name     Kirkinch
Street     Kirkinch
Parish or township     Eassie
County     Forfarshire (Angus)
Country     Scotland
Registration district     -
Family member first name(s)     Jean, John, David, Ann, Charles, Joseph
Family member last name     Haldan, Neave
Archive reference     -
Piece number     -
Book number     -
Folio number     -
Page number     -
Schedule     9
Record set     1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category     Census, land & surveys
Subcategory     Census
Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland.8,9
Member of Household30 March 1851They was listed as a member of the household of Charles Neave sawer and Ann Hattyne in the 1851 census at Eassie, Forfarshire, Scotland, ; First name(s)     Last name     Relationship     Marital status     Sex     Age     Birth year     Occupation     Birth place
Charles     Neave     Head     Married     Male     41     1810     Sawyer     Forfar, Angus, Scotland
Ann     Neave     Wife     Married     Female     41     1810     Sawyer's wife     Perth, Perthshire, Scotland
David     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     17     1834     -     Forfar, Angus, Scotland
John     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     14     1837     Weaver osnaburgs     Forfar, Angus, Scotland
Charles     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     12     1839     Scholar     Forfar, Angus, Scotland
Joseph     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     10     1841     Scholar     Forfar, Angus, Scotland
James     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     2     1849     -     Forfar, Angus, Scotland
William     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     0     1851     -     Forfar, Angus, Scotland

First name(s)     Charles
Last name     Neave
Relationship     Head
Marital status     Married
Sex     Male
Age     41
Birth year     1810
Birth town     Forfar
Birth town as transcribed     Forfar
Birth county     Angus
Birth county as transcribed     Eassie
Birth place     Scotland
Occupation     Sawyer
Full address     Eassie, Forfar, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Street     -
Parish     Eassie
County     Forfarshire (Angus)
Country     Scotland
Registration district     Forfar
Enumeration district     4
Piece number     -
Folio     -
Page     -
Schedule     11
Record set     1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category     Census, land & surveys
Subcategory     Census
Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland.10
Member of Household7 April 1861He was listed in the 1861 census at Cookston Millers House, Airlie, Forfarshire, Scotland, ; First name(s)     John
Last name     Neave
Relationship     Head
Marital status     Unmarried
Sex     Male
Age     23
Age as transcribed     23
Birth year     1838
Birth town     Eassie
Birth town as transcribed     EASSIE
Birth county     Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth county as transcribed     FORFARSHIRE (ANGUS)
Birth place other     Scotland
Occupation     Flour miller
Full address     Cookston Millers House, Airlie, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
House name     Cookston Millers House
Street     -
Parish     Airlie
County     Forfarshire (Angus)
Country     Scotland
Registration district     Airlie
Sub district     -
Enumeration district     4
Archive reference     -
Piece number     -
Folio     -
Page     -
Schedule     9
Record set     1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category     Census, land & surveys
Subcategory     Census
Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland.11
Head of Household2 April 1871He was listed as head of household along with spouse Catharine McLeod in the 1871 census at 48 Dallfield Walk, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . First name(s)     Last name     Relationship     Marital status     Sex     Age     Birth year     Occupation     Birth place
John     Neave     Head     Married     Male     33     1838     Brewer     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Catherine     Neave     Wife     Married     Female     34     1837     -     Glamis, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Charles     Neave     Son     -     Male     9     1862     Scholar     Glamis, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
John Mcleod     Neave     Son     -     Male     7     1864     Scholar     Airlie, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
James S     Neave     Son     -     Male     4     1867     -     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Alfred     Neave     Son     -     Male     2     1869     -     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
First name(s)     John
Last name     Neave
Relationship     Head
Marital status     Married
Sex     Male
Age     33
Birth year     1838
Birth town     -
Birth town as transcribed     EASSIE MEVAY
Birth county     Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth county as transcribed     FORFARSHIRE
Birth place     Scotland
Birth place other as transcribed     SCOTLAND
Occupation     Brewer
Full address     Dallfield Walk, 48, Dundee, St Clement, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
House number     48
House name     Dallfield Walk
Street     -
Town     Dundee
Parish     Dundee
County     Forfarshire (Angus)
Country     Scotland
Registration district     St Clement
Sub district     -
Enumeration district     20
Archive reference     -
Piece number     -
Folio     -
Page     -
Schedule     190
Record set     1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category     Census, land & surveys
Subcategory     Census
Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland; also in the household were Charles Neave, John McLeod Neave merchant navy, James Stewart Neave wine merchant and Alfred Neave.1
Head of Household3 April 1881He was listed as head of household along with spouse Catharine McLeod in the 1881 census at 53 Dudhope Street, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . First name(s)     Last name     Relationship     Marital status     Sex     Age     Birth year     Occupation     Birth place
John     Neave     Head     Married     Male     44     1837     Brewer     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Catherine     Neave     Wife     Married     Female     45     1836     Wife     Glamis, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Charles     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     19     1862     Commercial clerk     Glamis, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
James S     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     14     1867     Scholar     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Alfred     Neave     Son     -     Male     12     1869     Scholar     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Fox Mcleod     Neave     Son     -     Male     7     1874     Scholar     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
George B     Neave     Son     -     Male     5     1876     Scholar     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Jessie Mcleod     Neave     Sister-in-law     Unmarried     Female     27     1854     Shopwoman     Glamis, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Isabella     Stewart     Servant     -     Female     14     1867     Domestic serv     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

First name(s)     John
Last name     Neave
Relationship     Head
Marital status     Married
Sex     Male
Age     44
Age as transcribed     44
Birth year     1837
Birth town     -
Birth town as transcribed     EASSIE & NAVY
Birth county     Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth county as transcribed     FORFARSHIRE
Birth place     Scotland
Occupation     Brewer
Full address     53, Dudhope Street, Dundee, St Clement, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
House number     53
Street     Dudhope Street
Town     Dundee
Parish     Dundee
County     Forfarshire (Angus)
Country     Scotland
Registration district     St Clement
Archive reference     -
Piece number     -
Folio     -
Page     -
Schedule     59
Record set     1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category     Census, land & surveys
Subcategory     Census
Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland; also in the household were Charles Neave, James Stewart Neave wine merchant, Alfred Neave, Edward Fox McLeod Neave and George B Neave.12,13
Head of Household5 April 1891He was listed as head of household along with spouse Catharine McLeod in the 1891 census at Forebank, William Street, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . First name(s)     Last name     Relationship     Marital status     Sex     Age     Birth year     Occupation     Birth place
John     Neave     Head     Married     Male     54     1837     Brewer     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Catherine     Neave     Wife     Married     Female     54     1837     -     Glamis, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Charles     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     29     1862     Clerk     Glamis, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
John     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     27     1864     Ist mate mercht navy     Airlie, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
James     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     24     1867     Brewer     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Alfred     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     22     1869     Brewers assistant     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Edward     Neave     Son     Unmarried     Male     17     1874     Scholar     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
George     Neave     Son     -     Male     15     1876     Scholar     Dundee, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Lilias     Linton     Servant     Unmarried     Female     25     1866     General serv (domestic)     Airlie, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland


First name(s)     John
Last name     Neave
Relationship     Head
Marital status     Married
Sex     Male
Age     54
Age as transcribed     54
Birth year     1837
Birth town     -
Birth county     Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth county as transcribed     FORFAR
Birth place     Scotland
Occupation     Brewer
Full address     Forebank, William Street, Dundee, St Andrew, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
House name     Forebank
Street     William Street
Town     Dundee
Parish     Dundee
County     Forfarshire (Angus)
Country     Scotland
Registration district     St Andrew
Enumeration district     18
Archive reference     -
Piece number     -
Folio     -
Page     -
Schedule     348
Record set     1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category     Census, land & surveys
Subcategory     Census
Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland; also in the household were Charles Neave, John McLeod Neave merchant navy, James Stewart Neave wine merchant, Alfred Neave, Edward Fox McLeod Neave and George B Neave.14
Head of Household31 March 1901He was listed as head of household along with spouse Catharine McLeod in the 1901 census at 11 Westfield Place, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . First name(s)     Last name     Relationship     Marital status     Sex     Age     Birth year     Occupation     Birth place
John     Neave     Head     Married     Male     63     1838     Brewer     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Catherine     Neave     Wife     Married     Female     64     1837     -     Glamis, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
Sarah     Patterson     Servant     Single     Female     22     1879     General servant (domestic)     Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland

First name(s)     John
Last name     Neave
Relationship     Head
Marital status     Married
Sex     Male
Age     63
Age as transcribed     63
Birth year     1838
Birth town     -
Birth town as transcribed     EASSIE & R?
Birth place     Scotland
Birth place other as transcribed     SCOTLAND
Birth county     Forfarshire (Angus)
Birth county as transcribed     FORFARSHIRE
Occupation     Brewer
Full address     Westfield Place, 11, Dundee, St Peters, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland
House name     Westfield Place
House number     11
Street     -
Town     Dundee
Parish     Dundee
County     Forfarshire (Angus)
Country     Scotland
Registration district     St Peters
Other household member first name(s)     Catherine, Sarah
Other household member last name     Neave, Patterson
Archive reference     RG13
Piece number     -
Folio     -
Page     -
Schedule     94
Record set     1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category     Census, land & surveys
Subcategory     Census
Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland; also in the household were Sarah McPherson Paterson.15

Family:

Catharine McLeod b. c 1838, d. a 12 Aug 1915
  • Marriage*: John Neave brewer married Catharine McLeod on Saturday, 12 October 1861 at Glamis, Forfarshire, Scotland, ; First name(s)     John
    Last name     Neave
    Marriage year     1861
    Marriage place     Glamis,Angus,Scotland
    Place     Glamis
    County     Forfarshire (Angus)
    Country     Scotland
    Spouse's first name(s)     Catharine
    Spouse's last name     McLeod
    Marriage date     12 Oct 1861
    Record set     Scotland, Modern And Civil Marriages 1855-2019
    Category     Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory     Civil Marriage & Divorce
    Collections from     Great Britain, Scotland.4,5,6

Children:

Charles Neave b. 7 Sep 1861
James Neave b. 29 Dec 1862
John McLeod Neave merchant navy b. 21 Nov 1863, d. 12 Aug 1915
James Stewart Neave wine merchant+ b. 3 Sep 1866, d. 4 Oct 1934
Alfred Neave b. 20 Mar 1869
Edward Fox McLeod Neave b. 16 Jun 1873
George B Neave b. c 1875

Notes

  • (Witness) Note for Web: John Neave brewer and James Stewart Neave wine merchant were mentioned with Alistair James Neave and Isabella Robert MacKenzie on 20 January 2022. From Facebook Group Dundonian History For All:
    DM-S posts
    20 January 2022
    Doing Family History and it transpires my Grans Sister Married Alistair Neave who's Father James Neave helped run with his uncles and grandfather John Neave run the Victoria Brewery on Victoria Road (No 11) between 1876 and 1910
    one of the Ales they brewed was Empire Ale
    One of their adverts still exists.16

Citations

  1. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) John Neave in 1871
    1871 England, Wales & Scotland Census
    Dallfield Walk, 48, Dundee, St Clement, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  2. [S1] International Genealogical Index (IGI) (Salt Lake City, Utah, USA: International Genealogical Index), C112844 [Jan 2009].
  3. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) John Neave in 1837
    Scotland, Parish Births & Baptisms 1564-1929
    Eassie & Nevay, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  4. [S1] International Genealogical Index (IGI), M112891 [Jan2009].
  5. [S64] General Record Office for Scotland, online www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk, General Record Office for Scotland (Edinburgh, Scotland), Statutory Marriage 1861 Glamis ref 289/ 5 no image held [Mar 2022].
  6. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) John Neave in 1861
    Scotland, Modern And Civil Marriages 1855-2019
    Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  7. [S31] Website Commonwealth War Graves Commission (http://www.cwgc.org/) [Feb 2004].
  8. [S13] Website FreeCEN UK Census Online Project (http://www.freecen.org.uk/) FreeCEN SCT1841/284, Eassie & Nevay, Angus, EnumDist 4, Folio ), page 2; Kirkinch.
  9. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) Charles Neave in 1841
    1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
    Kirkinch, Eassie, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  10. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) Charles Neave in 1851
    1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census
    Eassie, Forfar, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  11. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) John Neave in 1861
    1861 England, Wales & Scotland Census
    Cookston Millers House, Airlie, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  12. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) John Neave in 1881
    1881 England, Wales & Scotland Census
    53, Dudhope Street, Dundee, St Clement, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  13. [S30] LDS 1881 Census FHL film 0203483 GRO ref vol 282-3 EnumDist 12 page 11 [Feb 2009].
  14. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) John Neave in 1891
    1891 England, Wales & Scotland Census
    Forebank, William Street, Dundee, St Andrew, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  15. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) John Neave in 1901
    1901 England, Wales & Scotland Census
    Westfield Place, 11, Dundee, St Peters, Forfarshire (Angus), Scotland [Mar 2022].
  16. [S61] Website Facebook (www.facebook.com) Facebook group Dundonian History for All DM-S [Mar 2022].