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Andrew McGlashan1

M, #14228, b. 20 April 1817, d. 9 August 1891
Last Edited: 16 Apr 2018

Parents:

  • Birth*: Andrew McGlashan was born on 20 April 1817 at Newburgh, Fife, Scotland, ; Name Andrew Mcglashan
    Gender Male
    Christening Date 20 Apr 1817
    Christening Place NEWBURGH,FIFE,SCOTLAND
    Birth Date Mar 1817
    Father's Name Robert Mcglashan
    Mother's Name Christian Lawson.1,3,2
  • He was the son of Robert McGlashan and Christian Lawson.2
  • Marriage*: Andrew McGlashan married Christina Grubb, daughter of Henry Grubb and Janet Forgan, on Monday, 29 January 1849 at Liverpool, Lancashire, England, ; First name(s) Andrew
    Last name Mcglashan
    Name note -
    Marriage year 1849
    Marriage date 29 Jan 1849
    Marriage place Liverpool
    Father's first name(s) Robert
    Father's last name Mcglashan
    Spouse's first name(s) Christiana
    Spouse's last name Grubb
    Spouse's age 0
    Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
    Spouse's father's last name Grubb
    Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    County Lancashire
    Country England
    Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
    Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory Marriages & divorces
    Collections from Great Britain.1
  • (Deceased) Death*: Andrew McGlashan died on 9 August 1891 at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, , at age 74 Name Andrew Mcglashan
    Occupation Contractor
    Death Date 09 Aug 1891
    Event Place Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
    Residence City Geelong
    Event Date 11 Sep 1891
    Series Number 46
    Record Number 234.4
  • Marriage Fact*: He and Christina Grubb were Marriage Fact on 29 January 1849 at St Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England, ; Name Andrew Mcglashan
    Spouse's Name Christiana Grubb
    Event Date 29 Jan 1849
    Event Place St. Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England
    Father's Name Robert Mcglashan
    Spouse's Father's Name Henry Grubb
    Marital Status Single
    Spouse's Marital Status Single
    Christiana Grubb
    mentioned in the record of Andrew Mcglashan and Christiana Grubb.5
  • Emigration*: Andrew McGlashan and Christina Grubb emigrated circa 1853 from Australia, ; presumed approximate date of emmigration.
  • (Spouse) Death: His spouse Christina Grubb died on 18 May 1885 at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, ; First name(s) Christina Grubb
    Last name Mcglashan
    Birth year -
    Death year 1885
    Death date 18 May 1885
    Cemetery Geelong Eastern Cemetery
    City East Geelong
    State Victoria
    Image link http://billiongraves.com/pages/record/Christina-Grubb-McGlashan/6799042
    Country Australia
    Record set Australia Billion Graves cemetery index
    Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory Deaths & burials
    Collections from Australasia.6

Census Events

Head of Household5 April 1841He was listed in the 1841 census at Royal Artillery Barracks 4th Battalion, Woolwich, Greenwich, Kent, England, . First name(s) Andrew
Last name McGlashan
Gender Male
Age 20
Birth year 1821
Birth county -
Birth county as
transcribed
SCOTLAND
Birth place (other) Scotland
Street Royal Artillery Barracks 4th Battalion
Parish or township Woolwich
City or borough Greenwich
Town -
County Kent
Country England
Registration district Greenwich
Archive reference HO107
Piece number 493
Book number 7
Folio number 40
Page number 4
Record set 1841 England, Wales & Scotland Census
Category Census, land & surveys
Subcategory Census
Collections from Great Britain.7
Head of Household30 March 1851He was listed as head of household along with spouse Christina Grubb in the 1851 census at Fish Street, Dundee, Forfarshire, Scotland, . Andrew McGlashan Head Married Male 33 1818 Carpenter Newburgh, Fife, Scotland; Christian Grubb Wife Married Female 22 1829 - St Andrews, Fife, Scotland; also in the household were Robert McGlashan.3

Family:

Christina Grubb b. c 1828, d. 18 May 1885
  • Marriage*: Andrew McGlashan married Christina Grubb, daughter of Henry Grubb and Janet Forgan, on Monday, 29 January 1849 at Liverpool, Lancashire, England, ; First name(s) Andrew
    Last name Mcglashan
    Name note -
    Marriage year 1849
    Marriage date 29 Jan 1849
    Marriage place Liverpool
    Father's first name(s) Robert
    Father's last name Mcglashan
    Spouse's first name(s) Christiana
    Spouse's last name Grubb
    Spouse's age 0
    Spouse's father's first name(s) Henry
    Spouse's father's last name Grubb
    Residence Liverpool, Lancashire, England
    County Lancashire
    Country England
    Record set England Marriages 1538-1973
    Category Birth, Marriage, Death & Parish Records
    Subcategory Marriages & divorces
    Collections from Great Britain.1

Children:

Robert McGlashan8 b. 19 Aug 1850
Janet McGlashan9 b. 20 Nov 1852
Henry McGlashan6 b. c 1857, d. 13 Feb 1886
  • (Witness) Note for Web: Andrew McGlashan and William Johnston, Christina Grubb, Henry Grubb, Janet Forgan, Lewis Johnston, Helen Grubb, Euphemia Stewart, Jessie Johnston, Agnes Barrie Johnston, Margaret Woods Johnston, Christina Johnston, Euphemia Stewart Johnston, Isabella Thomson Black Johnston, Georgina Keir Paterson Johnston, Henry McGlashan, Janet McGlashan and Robert McGlashan was mentioned with William Johnston. Facts and Hypothesis re William Johnston born about 1848 who says his parents are William Johnston, shipwright, and Christina Grubb:

    From various records one could assume that William is born about 1848 in either Fife – maybe Crail, maybe St Andrews – or Dundee. All these possibilities have been explored in the name of Johnson, Jonsen, Johnston(e) and variants; and Grubb without finding a birth/baptism that fits.

    On the 30th March 1851 census there is a 4-year-old child recorded as William Normand living in St Andrews with Henry Grubb and his wife Janet Forgan and who is described as ‘Grandson’ and born in Crail, Fife. No marriage between a Grubb and Normand can be found, and no William Normand was recorded as born/baptised in Scotland in the time frame. So a query exists that this might be William Johnston. But there are likely to be other grandsons who could fit this description. But no other William Johnson or Grubb that fits the profile.

    On the 7th April 1861 census William is declared as 'nephew' aged 13 with Lewis Johnston as head and Helen Grubb as wife, who are living in Fish Street Dundee. William is described as a mill worker born in St Andrews Fife. So William is nephew to whom? It should be stated as relative to the head of the house - Lewis Johnston. Or is it his wife, Helen? Christina Grubb is Helen’s younger sister. Is she William’s mother? Does Lewis Johnston have a brother named William? – Not found.

    On the 2nd April 1871 census William Johnston is found boarding at 7 Keys Close (which is at 18 Nethergate) Dundee, with Elizabeth Morrison as head of the household. William states he is born Dundee, aged 22 and working as a brewer.

    On his marriage three weeks after the census night, on 24 April 1871, William Johnston signs his name and states his parents as William Johnston, shipwright & Christina Grubb, his address as 18 Nethergate Dundee (see census above), his age as 22 and his occupation as bottler.

    On informing of Lewis Johnston's death in 1878, William states he is nephew and his address is 27 Overgate, Dundee. William also states Lewis’ parents as Ormond Johnston, a ploughman, and Euphemia Pratt – no information about this couple or any other similar Johnston family can be found.

    When his 4th daughter (of 7) is born in March 1881, she is named Christina – but this is not an uncommon name of the time.

    On the April 1881 census William states he is 34, and iron work labourer and born Dundee.

    In 1886, on birth of twin daughters, William is living at 27 Overgate, states his occupation as marine stoker and his marriage date as 24 April 1871.

    On the April 1891 census William states he is 46, born Dundee and occupied as a fireman.

    But on his death in 1899, William's wife Euphemia Stewart states his occupation as builder’s donkey engineman, his age as 51 and his parents are Lewis Johnston, seaman, and Helen Grubb. (Because they raised him?)

    On his wife’s death in 1913, his eldest daughter Jessie, says that he was a merchant seaman – but she also records her mother’s age as 49, when she was probably about 62.

    So who to believe?


    If Christina Grubb was Wiiliam’s mother – how would that look?

    Christina Grubb was born about 1828 (no birth/bapt found, but other records suggest this)
    If William is born about 1847/8, then Christina would be aged about 19/20.
    Christina marries Andrew McGlashan in January 1849 in Liverpool. Christina is probably aged 21.
    Christina and Andrew have a son, Robert McGlashan, who is born in Dundee in August 1950.
    The family are recorded in March 1851 in Fish Street Dundee. Christina’s age is stated as 22, Robert as under 1 year.
    Christina and Andrew have a daughter, Janet, in November 1852 in Dundee.
    When both Christina’s parents die within months of each other in 1855, Christina’s age is recorded on both occasions as 27.
    The next time this family is found is in Australia when a headstone in Geelong Eastern Cemetery records Christina’s death in May 1885, aged 57, along with Andrew McGlashan, aged 74, in 1891 and a son, Henry, aged 28, in February 1886. In the absence of records, it is presumed that the family emigrated about 1853.


    It could be hypothesised that Christina Grubb, sister of Helen Grubb, and William Johnson, brother of Lewis, are the parents of William Johnston born about 1848 and that he was probably born in Dundee, probably whilst Christina was staying with her sister Helen and brother-in-law Lewis.

    Further – Christina marries far away from home in Liverpool, but returns to Dundee to live and have her family – at least for a while. In 1851 Christina is living close by to her sister Helen in Fish Street Dundee. Helen has only one surviving child at this time – Jessie – three others have died in infancy, followed by another two who do not survive after 1851. It would make sense for Helen to take in her sister’s child – William Johnston – especially when Christina and her husband (who presumeably is not William's father) emigrate to Australia.

    Extensive research has produced nothing to support any of this suppostition.


    Additionally - there is a document for a William Johnston who is aged 14 and volunteering for the Navy. It is signed in Birkenhead and witnessed by the boy's uncle Edward Clancy and aunt Mrs John Bird. Neither of these people have been found to be related to our William Johnston. The boy's signature is typical of the era and there is a similarity to the older William's when he signs first his marriage register and later still his daughter's birth records - but not conclusively so.

Citations

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  2. [S56] International Genealogical Index (IGI) (Salt Lake City, Utah, USA: International Genealogical Index), SCOTLAND BIRTHS AND BAPTISMS, 1564-1950 ? Indexing Project (Batch) NumberC11450-4 System Origin Scotland-ODM GS Film number 1040169 CITING THIS RECORD "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XBJZ-8X1 : 8
    December 2014), Andrew Mcglashan, Mar 1817; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 1,040,169. [Sep 2016]
  3. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) 1851 England, Wales & Scotland Census Transcription URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=gbc%2f1851%2f0021052025 [Sep 2016].
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    Probate index books, M-Mc, 1889-1899
    Citation "Australia, Victoria, Index to Probate Registers, 1841-1989," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11810-120954-97?cc=1393345 : 20 May 2014), M-Mahood > image 71 of 1323; Public Record Office, Victoria. [Sep 2016]
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    December 2014), Andrew Mcglashan and Christiana Grubb, 29 Jan 1849; citing St. Peter, Lancaster, Lancashire, England, reference it 6, p 71, no 142; FHL microfilm 1,656,509. [Sep 2016]
  6. [S54] Website findmypast.co.uk (www.findmypast.co.uk) Australia Billion Graves cemetery index Transcription URL of this page: http://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=us%2fbmd%2fbillion%2f009467004 [Sep 2016].
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    Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11282-9
    System Origin Scotland-ODM
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    CITING THIS RECORD
    "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB8W-436 : 8
    December 2014), Christina Grubb in entry for Robert Mcglashan, 19 Aug 1850; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 993,405, 993,408, 993,403, 993,408. . [Sep 2016]
  9. [S56] Unknown author, unknown subject in "Family Search online," listserve message unknown original date, SCOTLAND BIRTHS AND BAPTISMS, 1564-1950 ?Indexing Project (Batch) Number C11282-9 System Origin Scotland-ODM GS Film number 0993405, 0993408, 993403, 993408 CITING THIS RECORD
    "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XB83-DSW : 8 December 2014), Christina Grubb in entry for Janet Mcglashan, 20 Nov 1852; citing , reference ; FHL microfilm 993,405, 993,408, 993,403, 993,408. [Sep 2016]